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Subject: out & happy
Just read your story & boy could I relate! We(husband & myself) were in a couple years ago, buying tapes going to functions adding legs before I felt ready less alone know what it was all about!Our sponsor was a super couple you felt loved and like you could do no wrong.We started spending more money than we made but hey we were plugged in and none of this will matter when we're retired on the beaches.Sound familar, we were fighting off and on .I quit listening to tapes , that opened my eyes ,I was very lucky when I got my husband to quit listening. Needless to say shortly after that we got out.Well our sponsors dropped us quickly I mean after all we are now what they consider DREAM STEALERS imagine that.I don't base my friends on what they believe in to bad AMWAY does! I am so glad to be my old self again, I don't have to act and dress like everyone else and I can once again be loud and funny without being looked down on by the so-called upline.Lifes to short to have others tell you how to act. Were glad we got out, I'm sure you will too once you open your eyes!
Let's see if I can keep this short. At this time my wife and I have a distributorship, in the Yager system, and we have been in for about a year and a half. I want out, but she thinks we have been given a great gift. We've been to numerous hotel opens, weekend seminars, major functions, etc. and we both have been caught up with it all. But she hasn't seen the information from you and others like yourself regarding the lies that we have been told. Our uplines always tell us not to surf anti-Amway sites, because we "aren't ready for them". So, for about a year, I listened to that advice. Now do I feel shafted! The most maddening things are the tool coercion and profits derived from it. Other things disturb me too, like the persistent "non-Amway activities equals L-O-S-E-R" feelings that get implanted into people, and the ways we have been taught evasiveness with contacts. I could go on and on.
The meat of the reason why I have written you is to ask for some help. We are having a child soon, and my wife wants to stay home with the little bambino. I really want that myself, to be honest. And we have been doing some things that I believe will make that possible. But not Amway. My wife thinks I've quit (she's right, but not I am not a "quitter"), and she is increasingly asking me how much contact I've had with the upline. I don't really know what to tell her, so she gets a lot of silence from me, which is not acceptable. The problem is, she's pretty stubborn. If she has a strong opinion about something, and somebody opposes it, she'll dig her spurs right into that idealogy, even if that's not the logical thing to do. So, I'm in a bit of a quandary as how to go about dissolving things with Amway in a way she'll listen and understand. I'm just concerned that she will basically say: "They told you those people on the web would try to steal your dream! Why do you listen to those negative people. Well, I'm not going to listen!" Do you have any idea how I can get around that?
I look forward to your reply, and keep up the good work!
Part II
I appreciate your quick response! It was quite theraputic to talk to somebody.
Let me ask you another question: I know there is a group of distributors in Houston (where I live) that have filed a big $200 million lawsuit against the AMO's. Are there any updates on that issue, and is there any more media attention expected? If some of these big cases got wide dispersal on the media circuit, people might wake up to what's going on.
Thanks!
There are some statements here I just couldn't leave alone. My comments are in bold type and enclosed in brackets.
I am currently involved in an Amway business through the ILD organization, and am happy to report that ILD fosters individual thinkers, strong-willed people who truly care about people. There are no zombies, the functions are monthly and there is no coercion to buy, buy, buy the tapes, etc. More importantly, it is a group of men and women dedicated to your achievement of success. These notions of cultism, mind control, profits made on the backs of sheep-like downline victims, etc., are WAY out of line, at least in terms of MY experience with the ILD organization.
[Unfortunately, the number of e-mails I get from people who've been victimized by the ILD AMO do not support this contention.]
People should get ALL the facts before making a decision on any business venture, and in my opinion, should not limit their counsel to people who have ill feelings or a bad experience with something. Analyze the person's feelings and try to discern specifics. Also, find out things like how many business plans they showed per week, what their mental attitude was like when they were involved, how adept they were with handling rejection, objections, etc., and how involved their upline was in their business.
[Well, if people should get ALL the facts before making a decision on any business venture, then why are Amway distributors taught so carefully how to PREVENT people from getting all the facts when they are looking at the Amway business? What facts did you get about your upline's "success" when you joined? Did they show you tax returns? Did they draw out their group so you could see how many people they had really sponsored? I highly doubt it! When you are being recruited for Amway, you are told things like, "Don't discuss this concept with your friends, relatives, co-workers and neighbors, because they haven't seen what you've seen. They don't have enough information to be entitled to an opinion about it. Besides, you don't want to know what a bunch of people who've never been involved think about the business, do you? You need to take your advice from people who've been successful in the business!" As the above writer says, if you are being prospected for the Amway business, "analyze the person's feelings and try to discern specifics." Obviously, the recruiter has a vested interest in getting you involved. Basically, he will tell you anything to encourage you to join, whether it's true or not. I, on the other hand, have no interest in getting anyone involved in anything. So who's more credible? The Amway recruiter, who stands to make money from your involvement? Or some stranger on the internet who is simply reporting facts and other people's experiences. ]
We are not salespeople selling a product, per se, [well that's for sure!] but we are selling a business concept and ourselves, in each and every meeting. As with any sales career, you have to prove yourself, and the results are hardly guaranteed. As with any business, there is risk. As with society in general, the people who make it to "the top" are less than 3%. I can tell you from PERSONAL EXPERIENCE that having just a few downline CAN and DOES make you a small profit of a few hundred a month; at 2500 PV, our take-home income, AFTER paying downline PV checks, was about $450. And we have terrible width, only three people in our group with one leg that was at 1500. Our personal use fluctuates between 100PV and 300 PV per month, and we have never aggressively retailed products.
So this business is not impossible, but you MUST treat it as a business, as much a business as a McDonald's franchise, print shop, or what have you. That doesn't mean you work it more than 20 hours per week, it means that in those 20 hours your mindset is solidly behind the success of your business. Bottom line, if it's a hobby for you, you'll get hobby-level income.
What disturbs me most about the negative I'm hearing is that everyone seems to be blaming the business, the corporation, their group, the organization they were in, their upline, etc. NOT ONE PERSON has said, 'You know what, I just didn't work it hard enough,' or 'They told me I needed to do XXX, and I can honestly say I didn't, so maybe that had something to do with my disillusionment.' It's EASY to blame THEM. It's harder to grow from the experience, but it's worth it, because even if you decide to move on, and you choose to learn from the experience, you'll be successful in the next venture. Don't keep making the same mistakes with your life, have the courage to find the answers to what's holding you back!
[And everyone in the Amway business demonstrates the typical cult practice of blaming the victim. It is never the system that is in error, it is always the individual -- no matter how many individuals are harmed compared with how few actually become "successful." I found the answers to what was holding me back -- I was involved in a cult. Now I'm out of it, and am being quite successful in my "next venture."]
Perhaps my reply does not conform to your site's guidelines for being negative on multi-level's. But I hope you post it, if for nothing else, then a tinge of fairness. Thank you.
[The only guidelines I have for posting messages is that they be civil.]
Hi folks - love your site - we were in for almost 3 years - did everything - made about $20 bucks a month if we were lucky. Of course that never covered the costs of the products and the system tools. We had NO time or money - the 2 things we were supposed to get from the system!!! After a while I got suspicious and thats when I found Sidneys web site - a true God send! So - my advice to you is simply keep your site up as long as possible - for every idiot who dislikes your site - there are 100 more people who NEED it to help them get out of the amway cult.
PS - I read the email about REXALL - its essentially the failed drug chain - some family members took it over - (I think the son) and were trying to aise some quick cash with a MLM scam. I had a friend in REXALL - it was a ypical MLM flop. Rexall was pushing the "homeopathic", watered down crap emedies for everything from headaches to fungus foot. Consumer reports id a story on homeopathic remedies - there was NO medicial evidence or esearch to support any of the claims of homeopathic remedies. bye :)
I'm sitting here reading through the items on your website. My husband is off to a FreeLife meeting to meet the bigwigs and find out about how great the company is. remain completely unconvinced that getting immersed in it is a good idea.....he wonders why I don't spend every waking moment making cassette tapes, handing them out, visiting everyone we know and pushing the company. He thinks that if I don't support the business, we will never be millionaires. We already did 2 years with NuSkin and poured everything into it..time, money, and effort. It didn't work. What makes him think FreeLife will? Any advice? How do I get him to wake up?? Thanks,
Part II
Subject: Thanks!
Thank you so much for your response. It is good to know there is someone out there whose eyes are open!! Over thelast two days I have gone over our records and come to the conclusion that in the past two years we have spent exactly $21,090.20 on MLM products, hyped tapes, etc. Our profit (retail sales and commissions) have been a scant 2,013.74. Not a wise business move! So far my hubby has just been showing me the schedule C figures to make me think that we haven't lost all that much money. But he only counts things like postage, mileage, cassettes and videos in his list of business expenses. I had a feeling things weren't adding up. They aren't. I have put together a list of all the expenses, the "10 Lies of MLM" from the website, and plan to have him read it all over when he gets home. (When we talk we just fight about it, so I'll ask him to read....keeps the emotion out of it). RIght now he's been calling upline for support and thinks that I'm "stealing his dream" and that to speak so negatively is just awful. He likes numbers and they don't lie. Freelife is a vitamin sales company whose guru is Earl Mindell. He wrote several vitamin books. The pay scale is typical MLM. Our check, we just got it today, was a whopping 74 cents. Not even enough for a large order of fries at McD's!
We have 13 people in our downline. Right now our upline e-mailed me saying we need to order more books and tapes, do more advertising through their co-op, enroll in the phone message system, and then we'll be on our way. Naaaaah.
I refuse. Usually my hubby is responsive to me when I have a bonafide, logically laid out argument. I think I do. Thanks for your help. If you have any more advice, I would greatly appreciate it. (He comes home on Thursday, so I have some time to get it all together!) Thanks,
Subject: .What about this !
Dear Sir:
Well, i am a Amway dist. but my wife and i are not building the business. i found the non-amway page about a year ago. So far every thing you have said and others is true about the tapes, books, S&R, as well as the functions.. HOwever, we looked into a company called Excel Communications. Heres, what we found and, by the way we are IR's in Excel..WE will drop out of the away business soon. I know this may sound like i am promoting the Excel business but i am not.. Just pointing out the differences.
They do not allow any Tapes or books or functions to be produced and sold by your up line. If you try this then they will kick you out and not let you back in. Check the web page (ExcelTel.Com) look at Oct 27, 97 Business wire article. We can cross line with any group. All tools ,tapes,and sales aids come from Excel and the cost is much smaller then the tools used in Amway from the up line diamonds !! We found this out about Excel. if a function is in town its put on by excel and all checks for tickets are made out to Excel. Major function is called Excel night where the top people come to talk to the REPs as well as CEO. By the way cost is form $10.00 to $49.00 max per person. We attended a $10.00 version of excel night. we were lowliest rep. and we both got to talk and shake hand with the CEO of Excel. Kenny stood out side the George R. Brown convention center in the forayer as people came out greeted every one that wanted to talk to him. As well as the other big reps in Excel. All opens are free all meetings held by your up line (like a direct,emerald,Diamond) are free. You can call on anyone cross line,sideline,up line,down line for help and they do. By the way the only tapes we have are from Excel and these are about 3 video and 2-3 audio tapes. They are to explain the business plan. Video are about $6.00 ea and if thank the audio tapes are $3.50 ea. The business plan is the same no matter where you go, no personal injection of opinion is allowed. We must have 20-35 customers,and maintain these. The only product we bought is our long distance carrier and we get 2% rebate on the LDU (Long Distance Usage) form our usage as well as our customers. WE have been in the Excel business for 5 months we have already made back all our investment (sign up fees, tool costs,etc..) and we have gotten many checks from Excel. By the way they take care of our down line reports, send a spread sheet showing our LDU , down line LDU and whos in our down line.. We pay no one,we receive no checks from our up line and all the 1099s come from Excel. Yes, we are not like Amway in any way. Except we are a MLM or Network-Marketing !! We do have to work to receive or income. The only tool you really need is the Book you get we you become a IR. Nowever, you must buy replacement coustomer LDU forms from Excel. I thank its $10.00 per 50 may have to ask my wife !! She knows!! You must try to sponser some people just three is all they suggest, and be pickey don't just sign up any warm body, and don't chase people.
Excel dose not give lapel pins,Pink Cadillacs or Internet Pins, the just send you a check.
By the way, all MLMs are not like Amway. The hipe is not there, the down grading of people is not there, the reference to religion is not there, and flag waving is not promoted, no crossing stage, no bowing and scraping to up lines or etc. What a difference in Excel. By the way i thank we are the only MLM company on the NYSE (ECI) and one of the youngest companies on NYSE. Besides, Excel must try to do the correct thing for its Rep's and customers, because the FCC and FTC control the Excel business. WHO's really watching AMWAY, Dexter, Britt, ETC. ??? Would you please resond to this E-mail.. and Tell me what you think..
It is obvious from a review of this information that these people are either uninformed or wih to neglect the facts in several areas. Anyone who has their own business is constantly marketing it and if you don't tell people about this business, how can one expect to survive? I frequently talk to people about my convential business and have found that as people better understand what I do and what I provide, that they are more able to make an informed decision and often choose to use my services. I have never been told about the MLM being a spiritual thing. Most conventional businesses fail within the first three years of operation. Why is this? One reason is that people are not reliable. Even if they own the business, they may not market the business, may not properly staff the business, may not put appropriate time into the business, and may not have any support with developing the businness or advancing to a higher level of profits. Why should people in the MLM world be expected to be able to profit if they don't put any time into the businesses? After all, the conventional businesses need to have large loans and these are given by banks, whose job involves making certain that the business venture is a good one to prevent loss of the bank's money. I ask you why do more than 90% of all cnventional businesses close, and more than 80% in the first 2 years if these are prescreened by financial institutions? The people are indeed their own bosses, and can set their own hours to work or not to work. As a MLM distributor, I can tell you of personal experiences where my downline quit after only 1 to two weeks. If one examines the personal lives of these people one can find that they are not successful in their other endeavors as well. People fight structure, and yet need the structure of a proven system to be successful. Do you seriously think that if everyone had their own computer operating system we would have this conversation right now? I doubt it. As an independent contractor with a MLM, one is free to be as unstructured as the MLM rules stipulate. If it ws mandatory to show 10 plans per week, perhaps people would be much more successful. Also, I know that not everyone will want to become a distributor, but frequently will use the products. This has generated significant revenue for the distributor. This is usually the case. And as to the charges that most sales are to non-customers, if I use a product am I not also a customer? If I were to buy a product at another store, which charges a higher, or even a lower price am I not being disloyal to my own business, and can I really expect with ths type of loyalty that I will survice as a business person? Also, do people not pay for convenience? If they don't, then how do all the 7-11's and white hens survive, because o fhte excellent prices, and the "friendly" sales people? I doubt it. As to the charge that one makes their family and friends buy products, ask most of hte MLM distributors how often this is true. My family will use what they feel is the best product. Because I will deliver it to them they may use some of my products, but also buy other things from outside sources. Often times this is based on my not having what is best for them, or by their lack of vested interest in my business survivng and prospering. As for a sound business not having a basis for negativity for one's job or conventional work: How often are people told by major corporations oh, and by the way, after this next major project is over, maybe we can find you a new position, but probably not as the economic indicators are showing lower growth and we probably will just downsize the position. Reality is sometimes frightning. Perhaps we should all stick our heads in the sand, nd reality wil just go away. In closing, I don't know of too many people who have worked for conventional business who have become wealhty in a 2-5 year period, who have the freedom to generate positive self image in the corporate world, and who have been challenged and then rewarded for truly hard work with appropriate compensation. I know that several corporations do a fine job of this, but are the hiring and what are the prerequisites for employment? MLM is open to all, and perhaps this is one of the reasons most people do not succeed. Perhaps they don't see the opportunity as a business, or perhaps they give up on themselves and the business as most people often do with diets, stopping smoking, exercising or just about anything which requires time, effort, bision, and faith in themselves.
Subject: Network 21
I have been "invited" to participate in Amway via Network 21. After reading about the lawsuit, I am having grave reservations. Do you think that this case is an indication of the direction Amway is going, or is it an odd situation? Do you think Amway will act in good faith and mend its ways if what this case says is the truth? Did Network 21 start as a way to circumvent scrutiny or is it for the most part, legit?
I would appreciate your response.
Thanks
I REALLY APPRECIATED YOUR EFFORT IN MAKING THE WORLD BETTER ACCORDING TO YOUR INFO DO YOU THINK REXALL, NUSKIN IS THE OTHER AMWAY ARE THERE ANY MLM COMPANY YOU THINK IS WORK AND FAIR TKS FOR YOUR HELP IN ADVANCE
Hard to tell what to think. Lawsuits happen all the time and don't always have the result the plaintiffs want. Am very interested in the outcome of the case and will follow it in the press and on line. I am a lawyer thinking about Amway. There are many AMO's. Not all of them operate in the same way. Can't tell if this case is based on what would be a blanket indictment of all Amway businesses or just this upline.
Isn't Dexter a high school drop out? It shows in his message, with it's rambling adn all. Some places don't make sense to me, but maybe I read it too fast. I almost got to hear those Amvox messages, but I don't have a credit card. They get $$$ out of you any way they can. It's no wonder those few got rich!
I have an Amway distributor card, but if I mention the A-word, people run faster from me than I run from Jehovahs Witnesses! Right now the card is just taking up space in my wallet that could be used for more important things, like one of those laminated calendar cards insurance agents like to give out! :)
My ex husband tried a bunch of those MLM scams at one time or another. He was pressurng me to get into Amway, but after seeing what he did with the others (Primarica, Herbalife, secured credit cards of one type or another, etc.) and the fact that my friends had dubbed his "business" as NO WORK ENTERPRISES, I tried to stay away from all that. In 7 years of marriage, I was the one who supported us with the rent, insurance, groceries, light bill....all of it. I got tired of that doo-doo.
I am in Anway now because the person who got us into it is someone I trust. He is not doing as well in it as he thought he would either, but I understand that is usually what happens in these MLM businesses, right?
I read your article and disagree with your opinion because a organisation which is so successful all over the world certainly has it own proven principles .
Maybe , we should able to see the pro and con side of Amway instead claiming it as a cult.
[I see, so because it is "successful" all over the world that makes it NOT a cult??? Interesting philosophy. I suppose, then, that if something is unsuccessful that means it is a cult, according to your definition. That probably the same argument that the Rev. Sun Myung Moon uses. Are you saying that the Moonies are also not a cult? How about the Hare Krishnas?]
Can you recommend a similar site with material concerning Equinox International? Apparently Equinox representatives like to point to Amway as the example of MLM gone bad while proclaiming Equinox's moral, environmental and commercial superiority. I suspect that a rose by any other name ....
You know, I really resent reading about people being referred to as "Ambots" or "Amway idiots" as though they're all brain-dead. No, it's not a perfect business because there are people in it. But there is one thing that I know, and that is that most of the people I know and associate with in the Amway business are not idiots. I've met everyone from bank VP's to pharmacists to MD's who are now successful distributors. And I don't believe for one minute that they were somehow picked by their upline to become successful, they simply decided that they would be. I know that's a real hard concept for some people to grasp.
Some of the people that have responded to you, however, have really given themselves away by some of the phrases they use and ideas that they have. For instance, I keep reading about "being forced" to attend functions and buy tools. What did the DD do, get the poor little helpless distributor in a head lock and refuse to let go until he paid the full price of a function ticket? How in the world can anyone force anyone to do anything in a volunteer army? What an utterly stupid idea. I guess these people think, like the media, that the rest of us are so stupid that we'll just believe anything.
I'd rather associate any day with someone who has big ideas over someone who sits around and craps in their diapers and sucks their thumb all day and wants everyone else to be crappers and suckers, too.
I've come to the conclusion that those who like Amway and those who do not have some fundamental differences in philosophy and values. In fact, I really think that Amway has very little to do with any of these differences. Someone said to me once "That Amway thang started a war in my church!" Well, the fact is that Amway didn't do a blessed thing. People who didn't know how to treat each other started a war in his church. Amway is an inanimate object, for crying out loud! Every anti-Amway letter I've ever read seems to spew with the victim philosophy. "Oh, poor me, I tried something and it didn't work because it was too hard, and I don't want to be honest with myself and admit that it has anything to do with me, so I'll just make it sound like it's someone or something else's fault." They want to blame it all on Amway, but it's just a reflection of their attitude about life in general. Maybe someone else will buy it, but not me.
My experience is that participation in the Amway business brings out a person's true nature, whether good or bad. The only thing Amway might force one to do is to take an honest look at what they need to change about themselves. That's all it does. If you quit, fine, it doesn't make you any worse or better than anyone else, but if you quit and then rail against it and act like a 3-year old who has his toys taken away, then it must be that you have a real problem with the honesty thing as well as and due to some major character flaws. If I learned anything from my Amway experience, it's that the doers make things happen and enjoy the satisfaction of achievement while the whiners just let things happen and then do what they do best, which is whine. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out which category you and the people like you are in.
Please feel free to share this with other people of delayed intelligence like Mr. Schwartz. I can't tell you how overjoyed I am to see that his "Slamway" site has been obliterated. It's only a matter of time for the rest of you.
Just a quick note on my MLM survival.My brother in law got us involved with a Worldwide Deambuilder group which had a lawyer for an upline direct(double whammy.) In the Amway rush we joined. I had a lingering bad feeling about the lawyers' original Amway presentaion after I read the Amway starter info they give you. The info the lawyer gave at the presentation was not at all what Amway says about it's business. To try to rectify this bad feeling I went and watched him give the same presentation again and boy was I enlightened by his "slick lawyering". Lies,omissions,answering questions with questions, all of it pure B.S. I quit. My brother in law on the other hand is one of the "sheep" being lead to what could be the promised land(there is a minuscule chance)or the poor house(greater chance.) Thanks for the time and keep up the great work. THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE!!!!!!!!
After he joined "The Way" he tried to get me in with him (in fact I was his first call). I was very skeptical, but gave a listen to him and his upline (it's the least I could do for a "friend"). I am an engineer and have worked for some large discount retailers (Target, Best Buy) in a finacial capacity for several years. I had many questions about Amway's business, and found that noone could answer them logically. A gentleman from ***'s upline even called me to answer my questions and couldn't. This cat makes $300,000 a year and doesn't even know how his company works.
Needless to say I told my friend no. Of course that didn't stop him from calling to see how I was, or getting together with our families or still trying to convince me to enlist in the nightmare. But, no matter how much he calls, or we try to get together, he's changed. He only comes in town now on Amway business (or special occasions). Whenever I have seen him, there is always someone from his downline with him. His close "friends" are his Amway links. Even if we get together at a social event, he and his clan always end up in a corner discussing business.
I could go on with examples all day, but the moral to my story is that the Amway cult is affecting people inside and outside of it's circles. My friend's life is absorbed with this dream for a few hundred dollars a month. And I feel I have lost a friend because of the wedge Amway has put between us.
I'm glad you got your lives back together, I only hope my friend doesn't have to go through what you did. As far as I'm concerned, I will never get into Amway. Even if I was guarenteed to go direct or diamond, it wouldn't be worth losing 1 more friend.
What about Equinox! I am not an ex rep, but have many friends that have lost huge sums of money. I've also seen a documentary on ABC's 20/20 over a year ago. The show uncovered this monster scam and its bogus products. Any way, I'm looking for stories & more info. about this cult like scam. I am trying to convince a friend of the danger she is in with Equinox. I am amazed at the ammount of money people are blindly giving to this deceitful company and I wish I could do something to help it stop!
What can I say to put down their persistant presentations? There must be something really clever that will shut them down. 3 "friend" have presented Scamway to me by saying they just need the "practice' on me! "No" doesn't work on them. Any suggestions?
I have read your article on mlm's and I was wondering if there are any mlm's out there that are legitimate or have you been in those like Gold Unlimited which ws closed down and many people lost thousands. I have heard ofpeople working for supposably legitamate companies who declared bankruptcy and the workers with many years with the company found themselves with no job, no retirement and back pay that they were unable to collect. I have seen some mlm's that appear at least to be taking care of those who are their distributors with better plans than most smaller companies. I don't know how you can truly find a company that is and will always be stable, either in mlm or in the business world. I just got started in networking part time with a little known company out of Georgetown, Ky. "New Image" All I know about it, is that I first tried their product and had others try it before I came in. I did not nor was I told that if I came into the business that I would be making a great amount of money. In fact, I was told that unless I wanted to work the business with a full time attitude and followed the training , that I could expect low earnings. That most of my income from the business would be from retail sales of the product. I look at this business as more of an investment in the future with a hopeful rate of 20 cents profit on the dollar. Any more than that would be great, any less would be a weak investment . I set a year time limit as to how the business goes. There are no hard sells, but it is networking and I do enjoy the challenge. Again, I am new to this marketing experience but have looked at several different opportunities. What interested me about this one was that there is more one-on-one people envolvement. Internet selling is not recomended but you can if you wish. I don't feel pressured and I don't go up to people and ask them to buy. If someone asks, I give them documentation on the product and ask them to read it and contact me if they are interested or want more information. If you have any information on this company that I need to know about, I would appreciate your input. Thanks. Tom Mills..tterriffic@aol.com
I found your article very informative. Is this research from your own experience? For me in my own business, this gives me hope for a better future, for my children and extended family. You see, I could use your views, to not do the business. But then what? I'm stuck with a 9 to 5 job, paying out daycare food electricity bills school uniforms mortgage, education, etc. I have a great upline and support, and have met people who are very sucessful in the business. It cost me $130.00 to join and $5.50 to be brainwashed/ yes brainwash to get the rubbish and negative garbish from childhood up to today. It's not everyones cup of tea. Then again what's yours and what is. The system I am involved with is International Leadership Developement. I think you may have been in the wrong system. As long as I remain teachable, I will succeed. I leave you with this "I have learned the truth that every adversity carries with it the seed of an equivalent benefit.My adversity cost me my bank balance. It paid off through the revelation of the means to all riches" By Napolean Hill Think and grow Rich. Mate have another look at this business. Instead of giving DOPE, give hope.
[So, this one even admits he's been brainwashed, but he doesn't seem to think there's anything wrong with it. He also believes he will succeed "as long as I remain teachable." Unfortunately, the Morrison lawsuit clearly states that the idea that anyone can succeed is a fallacy.]
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