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Re: Equinox

Thanks for taking the time out of your busy schedule to respond to my e-mail. Yes, I knew that Amway was providing the interpretors at their meetings and I've pointed that out to the uplinks in Equinox and they snidely told me that they're different from Amway...how so??

At least, I only lost 5,000 dollars while I know of a deaf person who lost way more than that and their excuse? "He's deaf and didn't REALLY understand what was going on...." Oh please! This guy is an computer expert and can whip all of the computer parts together to make a working computer!

Good luck with the web site and may the "starry-eyed" reps find out now than later before it is too late!

with regards,

You know, your story actually made me laugh tonight. HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA

Email me sometime and I'll tell you a story of owning your on business and you can get a real nightmare.

OH hope you are making lots of money by selling your book at other peoples expense. Is this not what happened to you in YOUR STORY?

thanks 4 quick reply. actually i am wonderful now. i was also alcaholic and have been in recovery now 4 almost 3 yrs. my life is good and i feel the drinking was 1/2 the problem. i only told part of my story. it feels empowering to go after them legally. i wan'ted to but could not afford to. too much debt from mlm costs and i knew they were fully prepared with their defences as ready as the full throtle strip step by step of your objections. i liked what i read of the other mans story it's so true it is a euphoric state that feels good.pumped with hope and visions of sugarplums dancing or really all the ways they math out the success plot. i feel totally healthy now in this new century.im in my prime, my children almost grown and husband and i very in love again. money is ok and positive cash flow from real employment is always better than pie in the sky.

my friends are glad for me that i might get some of what i lost back.especially those who knew me then. I'll check the web site to stay current on what is up. thx.again im so glad somebody finally went after them.

Thank you so much for taking the time to get back to me. Tonight my brother came to visit my mom, and they talked Amway. She tried to show him some of the info that we got off the net, but he refused to even look at it. They have him so brainwashed, it just makes me sick. In the end, nothing changed - he said he's going to give it 2 more years. We've tried to talk to him calmly & rationally, because he gets so defensive about it. She told him that when he decided to get out, none of us will tell him "I told you so", and he told her that when he makes his first $150,000 he won't tell us "I told you so". Sick huh?

Anyway - thanks for writing!

Hi-

I just want to admit right now, I have not read your whole story (I will once I am done writing this), but being a reasonable intelligent person I have had my fare share of these MLM jerks. I am so glad you cause these people grief! Personally I have only lost about $200, but immeasurable amounts of emotional black mail were placed upon me to give up that money. Frankly it was worth paying just to get rid of those people.

I can understand why those people write to you though. You have to be a willing brain wash victim to get into those programs, and when they see someone exposing what they, subcontiously, know to be true of course they are going to be upset. Their perfect world is suddenly not so perfect.

I have had trouble sleeping at night so I find myself watching TV scams and just thinking, what is wrong with these people. I only hope there really is a hell, because I know there must be a special place in it for them. Normally I wouldn't write, but since you posted the negative mail you get I thought I should give you a positive one.

Keep up the good work,

You have an article on your web site titled "A Tangled Web: A Look at Primerica Financial Services". Yet the site is unavailable at this time.

I am looking for information on this company to see if it is legitamte as my son is getting involved in it. Do you have the information on these people or can you direct me to some site i could go to, or any complaints that you have. thankyou

anything on Maxxis 2000

I hope Mr. Rob Styler also reads the posts, and I invite him to once again connect with me. I met Rob 4 yrs. ago; he was my International Marketing Director "upline". I always felt him sincere and compassionate; he was chosen to open the market up in Mexico City. His wife Seana Sesma, was my direct "upline". This woman was beautiful and glowing on the outside, charming and poised. She was smart. She was aggressive and brazingly deceiving. She looked successful, and because of the emphasis of Mr. Gouldd choosing people who are well-esteemed in our society, to promote this company, it felt strange, but I was instantly attracted to the company. Ted Danson promoted the company 2 yrs. in a row, and Mr. Gouldd charmed people such as Senator Orin Hatch, who also promoted the company at "Kick Off 1995" held in Las Vegas. This is the month when I lost my sense of myself, and felt I had finally found a way to get away from day to day work ( I work for lawyers)- the hard work was killing me, but little did I understand, I was about to loose my life savings. Seana Sesma and her mother Juanita Vega, are perfect examples of heartless, cutthroat people, who could care less if you end up homeless, bankrupt, divorced... as long as they "got your wallet".

Thank you, Rob, for writing the truth, I hope you will contact me.

AN IMPORTANT POST TO ALL WHO ARE READING AND HAVE SIMILAR EXPERIENCES, IN CALIFORNIA, TEXAS AND MARYLAND --- THEIR IS A CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT BEING FILED SOON

IN EQUINOX'S EFFORT TO "STAY AWAY FROM POLITICS" THEY SHUT YOU DOWN AND TRY TO SHAME YOU OUT OF THE COMPANY, IF YOU VOICE ANY DISPLEASURE AT NOT CREATING THE PROMISED GOALS YOU HAVE SET FOR YOURSELF; IE PERSONAL INDEPENDENCE & SUCCESS.

I've read a lot of your stories on your site and can relate. I've been involved with several network marketing companies over the years and have been turned off by the high pressure sales to buy tapes and videos. I have also been turned off by all of the over hyped products that are suppose to make miracles happen. I haven't been involved with mlm for several years because of the bullshit involved with most companies. I get approached all the time and of course I turn them down. Recently I was approached by a company on the internet that sparked my interest. Tell me what you think is it another nightmare or is a good business to get involved with.

please let me know.

Just thought that you should know the truth about Amway:

I'm a distributor who has been involved with the Amway Sales and Marketing business for just over a year. I haven't done much work with it, so obviously I haven't made a lot of money from it: in fact I have made very little money from it, because of the fact that I have done very little work. (BEFORE I got involved, I was told that in order to build a large successful business, I would need to go out and show people the business plan at least 15 times per month. The fact is, THE MOST TIMES I HAVE EVER SHOWN THE PLAN IN A SINGLE MONTH IS TWICE.) However, this is not through the lack of upline support: in fact, they are falling over themselves to help me build this business, and work closely with myself and the IBOs (distributors) in my downline. I just have not yet made this my #1 priority.

That is also the reason why most people do not make any money in Multi-Level Marketing: THEY DO NOT DO ANY WORK!!!!!!!!! The fact is that it was made perfectly clear to me BEFORE I joined that I would need to work quite hard to make it happen.

On the basis of pyramid schemes, a pyramid is characterised by the fact that people only make money by recruiting people who recruit people: money is made solely by recruiting people, not through the movement of goods and services. Obviously, you have not seen the Amway Sales and Marketing Plan, because if you had, you would realise that money is made solely through the movement of goods and services, not recruiting people. I could recruit 100 distributors over the next 2 months, but if they do not buy products for either personal use or on-selling to customers, no one makes any money. (Truth is that in the New Zealand business kit, there is PV and BV attached to it, but if you had a distributor price kit, you would realise that the PV and BV on the kit is to the same value as that of the sum of the PV and BV on the separate items of products in the kit (L.O.C., Glister Toothpaste, Nutriway Daily 60 (multi-vitamins), shampoo). The fact is that you need to recruit 9 distributors in your first month in order to make $3.00 NZ out of solely recruiting people.

DO SOME RESEARCH MAN!!!!! I believe in freedom of speech; however, with freedom goes RESPONSIBILITY. This means that you must be prepared to take responsibility for what you say, and this goes just as much for Amway, the Diamonds, as well as yourself. Just remember as well, that many of the disgruntled former distributors who wanted to complain about Amway between 1975-1979 actually did the company a favour through sharing their evidence:

One ex-distributor stated that he had gotten involved, worked hard for three months, quit and didn't make any money. He or she then started a business in insurance sales, and was doing quite well with it. He was a forklift truck driver from a warehouse before that. When questioned about where they learned the skills that allowed them to make the change, he or she told the court that it was his Amway experience.

Other distributors who got in and claimed that they made no money were found, upon questioning, to have done nothing to promote the products, show the sales and marketing plan or do anything else. (Is it a surprise that those people made no money?)

ON THE CHARGE THAT 'UPLINE' DISTRIBUTORS TRY TO CONTROL YOUR LIFE: I'm also a university student. My upline has never suggested to me that I should quit university; in fact they encourage me to stick with my studies and do well with them. They are not trying to get me to submit myself to them: THEY KNEW THAT I WANTED TO STUDY AND DO WELL, AND THEY ARE DOING WHATEVER THEY CAN TO HELP ME TO SUCCEED AT GETTING EVERYTHING THAT I WANT IN LIFE!!!!!!!! While it is true that one seeks upline advice on areas such as retirement from a normal job, etc, I have NEVER SEEN upline FORCE people to quit working, and do the business full-time. Most people leave their jobs, because they actually hate them, and want more free time away from an employer.

Now, I should tell you why I joined Amway: I joined Amway's distributor force in March 1999, because I wanted to pay off my student loan before graduating from university, and I wanted to have my pilot's license as well as an engineering degree. My sponsor was THE FIRST PERSON TO EVER COMMIT TO HELPING ACHIEVE THIS IN MY LIFE, AND HAS FOLLOWED THROUGH ON THAT COMMITMENT EVER SINCE!!!!!!! I was never co-erced into doing it: in fact I did not even make the decision overnight. I was shown the plan in January, took off on a 2 week Army exercise before going to university (With NO contact from upline), come off the Army exercise still fired up about the whole business, all without a tape player to listen to the tapes on, or any books to read about the business. (Okay, so you probably think that that is bullshit, but I know that it is the truth!)

My parents told me that I was crazy: after all, they had been distributors for 10 years, never making serious money in the business, regardless of the fact that they never worked it for more than 1 or 2 months (so is it a surprise that they never made any serious money?). However, my father has seen that I am going to do it any way, so he is now supportive of it ("but don't let it interfere with your studies!"), and wants to see me succeed. My mother still hassles me, and tells me that I'm useless and I'll never make it, but to put that in perspective, she told me that when I sat my High School exams a year early, and told me that I would never make it through an engineering course at university, because I'm not smart enough. (Nice to know that I have supportive parents!).

Anyway, I'm starting to build an organisation. As far as books, tapes and functions go, we were shown by our upline diamond how the profits from that get paid out, and even though it can contribute a significant percentage to business income, there is a cap on what they pay out, and it by NO means constitutes the majority of a distributors income. (I'll assume here that you have done some elementary maths in your life, so you'll realise that the $50 000 income you can earn from tapes, books and functions is actually less than the $75000 that an emerald will make.) It is an area of concern, but I'm hoping that it has been cleared by the New Zealand Commerce Commission. Also, I tell my IBOs that if (and only if) they are serious about building the business, then they should subscribe to the tools system. However, I also tell them that it is not mandatory, but if they APPLY what they learn through it, then it should help them succeed. On the stats that I've kept so far, I have 4 downline IBOs. 2 use the tapes, etc, and two do not. The ones who do use them are currently enjoying the most success, and are actively building the business: The others are in in name only, and are not committed to making it work. If you subscribe fully to the system, it will cost NZ$1000pa. Only do it if you want to build the business, other wise leave it alone. (Although, in NZ, we can get most standard motivational type books, eg the 7 Habits of Highly Effective People by Stephen Covey for cheaper than at the book shop.)

Anyway, carry on the campaign against the unscrupulous b'stards who are acting unethically. Like I say, my experience of the business has been good, while sadly, some people fall victim to pirates. If you take us on as a pyramid scheme, I'll see you in court, and the truth will win!

Note, I would like a reply to this, otherwise I will know that you are not actually keen on helping people,

Hi, I wrote a couple of weeks ago about a friend and co-worker trying to get me involved with Quixtar. I just wanted you to know that I can see some very serious changes in her personality since I wrote that last letter to you. Now she is starting to miss more and more work. Also, her mother was in the hospital where we both work last week with congestive heart failure. I had worked a 12 hour shift that day and I had another job to go to that night. Still, when she came to see me on the unit, she looked very tired and worn out. All the way to the other job and then on my way home I couldn't get the image of her face out of my head. So, when I got home, as tired as I was, I decided to call her to make sure that she was allright.

We talked about 5 minutes when she brought up Quixtar to me again. Well, I was just shocked that she could look so bad, worried and everything about her mother, only to bring this up to me again. Actually, I was quite offended by it. Anyway, when I tried telling her about all the things that I had found out about the company, she kept interrupting me. Nothing aggravates me more than being interrupted. Well, to say the least, I was in no mood to listen to her again. So I told her that I had to go because I was getting quite angry with her. Here I was, showing concern for her, and all she could do was try to sell me a membership. I was totally aggravated and upset at all of this.

So, I went online and found about 40 articles concerning Amway and printed them all off. I have to work with her tomorrow and if she brings this up to me again, I will show her what I have found out about the company. I just can't get over the change in her. I have worked with her off and on for over a year and considered her to be a good worker and friend. It just bothers me that she could have changed so drastically in just a few weeks. I believe more than ever now that Amway must be a cult of some sort. Otherwise, how could a friend change so much in such a short period of time? I won't make any attempt to change her mind but I will make sure that she will not bother me with this again. I would also like to thank you for posting your website for all the world to see. It has been very informative and educational to me. I hope this weekend to purchase your book. I want to read as much as I can as I find this to be a very interesting topic.

Sincerely,

Part II

Hi Ruth,

Thank you for the response and the information. I may look into those books at my library. Yesterday, she really pulled a fast one on me at work. She came in in the morning and apparently was feeling fine. Well, I wasn't feeling good all week, but I still went to work. When she found out that I wasn't feeling too good, suddenly, she didn't feel good either. Anyway, to make a long story short, she was scheduled for 12 hours yesterday and I was scheduled for 8. She went to our boss and told her that she needed to leave early because she "wasn't feeling well" and so my boss came and asked me to stay later than my scheduled shift because she needed someone there to pass the food trays at dinner for our patients. Well, I ended up putting my plans on hold so I could help out at work, when they needed me. You can bet though, that I wasn't happy about it. She also brought up Quixtar to me again and this time I was prepared for it. I had printed off about 20 pages from your website concerning this company, gave them to her,and told her that that was why I would never be stupid enough to get involved with these people. I told her that I didn't care if she read the pages or not, that it was just easier for me to show her the pages rather than trying to explain it to her. I also told her that if she didn't leave me alone about this, that I would go and file a complaint with human resource as it is against hospital policy to solicit and employee, visitor or patient at work. I think however, that I won't be working with her much longer because my boss told her yesterday, that she must start coming to work and staying for her entire shift or she would be forced to terminate her based on her poor attendance record. I hate to see it happen, but I really believe that my boss needs to do something about her because our whole staff on the floor is paying the price for her lack of attendance.

Thank you again for you help.

Sincerely,

Hi, I am a former WWDB cult member. I thought you might enjoy this story of my experience after leaving the business.

Upon leaving the business, I realized that I had about 1000 cassette tapes that were now useless to me. I figured, I could sell the tapes cheap to a local direct distributor I know, and make myself $100. When I called him, before I even mentioned a price, he said he didn't want them, because, his upline diamond said you should always buy your tapes from the upline. (I wonder why?)

I decided that I would offer the tapes to a guy in this directs downline. I told him I had 1000 tapes and all I wanted was $100 for them. He thought this was a great deal and said he would pick them up tomorrow. The next day he called me and said the deal was off, because his upline (the direct I had called) said it was a bad idea.

WWDB apparently has the most brilliant business minds in the world with the most common sense, so why would purchasing $10,000 (tapes in Canada are $10.65 each- ouch!) worth of tapes for $100 be a bad idea? The only reason I can see is that the upline direct and diamond wouldn't make any money off of these tapes. What amazing control the upline has!

I decided to screw the upline anyway and I simply gave the tapes the the second guy I called. I bet his direct and diamond were disturbed to hear of this. It would look really stupid if they told him not to accept 1000 free tapes, it would be better to buy them. Although, he would probably listen to them.

WWDB, so many apparently nice and honest people, just pretending to love others so they can get their money. Very sad, I'm glad I'm free!

Darling Ruth, You have saved my bacon, by speaking to Rob -Love and Light to you, and God continue to send blessings to all of the friends who choose to speak from their hearts.

Hi,

We are in the middle of becoming ostracized from our upline and downline because of our decision to quit the Amway business. We have been very active "Leaders" in the business since 1996. Starting about two years ago we began to feel the pressure to conform to the ideals of our upline leaders. We are practicing Catholics and were urged to leave our church to attend a Christian Church (which I almost did, but was saved by my husband) to avoid negative relatives that were trying to "bring us down" regarding Amway, to miss important family events in order to go to functions and to basically shy away from doing anything that may bring negative into our life. We were always very careful to balance family functions and the business, because we did not want to appear that we were sucked into anything and confirm to our families that we were not helpless. We have gotten into many disagreements with our upline regarding many of the above mentioned. They always backed down, with a large sigh, when they knew we were not giving in. This past 6 months many personal tragedies have befallen our family.

Because we were so distraught, we decided that showing plans was not an option (The month previous to this we showed 30 plans, so we were very active) My husband, whose family has been effected by events to long to explain, stopped attending weekly meetings, seminars and Major events. I continued to attend, but stopped shortly afterward when my Upline Direct made fun of me at a Major Function for not going across stage as a new pin. I would say in light of all that had happened to us that this comment from him was not necessary. They barraged us with hysterical messages that we were hurting ourselves and our downline for not attending the meetings. We explained to them that the Amway meetings were not going to solve the problem we were currently facing. They insisted that we still attend. We just couldn't. We spoke with the downline that were left dwindling and they all seemed to understand that we needed to work some things out before continuing to show plans. One particular couple we had grown close to and are the Godparents of their child were the ones we thought were going to be there for us no matter what. Well, after a hiatus from "the business" we had become enlightened by the Probandts website regarding there involvement with the Amway system money. We thought we owed it to our favorite downline to share this information with them. During the conversation everything seemed to be fine and in agreement that we were trying to protect their best interest in order to save them from spending $25000.00 in a matter of 4 years and making only $8000.00 like we did. They said they appreciated telling them and were thankful for everything we have done for them (bought them groceries when they didn't have any for their children, lent them money for their car, talked him out leaving her). Later that night they went straight to our upline and told them everything we said about the system. Needless to say we received an email 3 minutes after our "friends" left our uplines house. They are very upset with us.

I called my friend at work the next day and she was hysterical too at what transpired the day before. She was told by her husband that she is no longer to speak to us until he says it is ok. We are shocked that this is going on. We never disassociated with anyone this way that wasn't building the business. I am so thankful that my husband and I are on the same page and that we have websites like yours to make us feel better. I really considered all these people my close friends, but they are only on our side when we are attending functions and solving our problems that "Amway".

Thanks for listening.

I did what you asked and read your story before I emailed you. I am a distributor, currently quixtar. Your story is a sad one indeed. Sorry things turned out so bad for you. I accidentally linked into your site from another site that was blatently anti-MLM anti-Amway, anti-Quixtar and blatently outdated and misleading. The biggest complaint that ex-Amway distributors have is always the money they invested and never recovered. When even the most inflated figures are posted on a misleading web site they never compare to the cost and overhead of any traditional business. Even a small vender at the local mall in a little kiosk will spend more than $6,000/yr if the rent of the retail space of a kiosk is only $500 a month. That does not include any other expenditures such a inventory, business supplies, employees(if needed) ect... They also bust their butts to make their business work like any business owner should. What people tend to forget is that AMWAY or Quixtar is a business and it requires money, time and RISK like any other venture. Not everyone can do this business. Not everyone has the ability to recruit, promote, and invest time and money. So this buisness is not for everyone yet you are unfair in saying it is not for anyone. If you have people in your organization that are not willing to put time in the business and invest the money nessesary to keep it afloat then you have to tell them to take leave of it and cut their losses. I myself have had an unsuccessful distributor that in no way will have the ability to perform well unless he makes some drastic personal changes. Even though he wants to rejoin the BIZ I refuse to personally sponser him unless he is more financially responsible in his personal life as well as makes a great effort to WORK hard at doing the business. It is a favor to him in the short and long run. It is key that current distributors understand that their prospects must be given a chance to work the business and see some success before sponsoring them. Unfortunatley too many distributors are into sponsoring and forgeting which is a clear violation of ethics and conduct by the AMWAY or Quixtar rules of Conduct. Sponsoring a new IBO is a real responsibility. It is more than just signing forms. The successful business owners who grow know this and make an effort and spend their own time and money to get someone else's business growing, sometimes at a loss in the short term. All I hear in most of the negative Web sites is how people lost so much money doing the business for themselves, never about investing time and money on their downline distribuors business or how their upline spent time and money on them. As far as BSM's (business support materials) it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that BSM's are separate entities from the Quixtar marketing plan and are OPTIONAL. If you are concerned about who is making the money on the BSM's then you forgot what the purpose of the BSM's were in the first place. I don't get pissed off at BIll Gates for making money on the Books and supplies I use to study for my certifications in my Microsoft certification courses or the Text Book salesman who sold the books at the local college for my courses. The fact is people who fail at making money are always critical of those who do, doing the same thing they did not succeed in.

What is important for anyone to notice is that anyone willing to take the time and money to develope a web site to blame the MLM's for their failures, and give everyone their so called unbiased insight on why they had no controll of their own thoughts and actions, and eventually failed, take no personal responsibility. They are the finger pointers. Everyone of them have the same access to the Federal Trade Commision, their respective Attorney Generals, their local law enforcement, their own class action lawsuit lawyers, yet in 99% of their plight they have no ethical or legal recourse to do anything except blame everyone except themselves. I do give at least 1% for the idiots and jerks that are in the business that will eventually be justly dealt with. Some of the people who develope web sites are financially funded by rival companies of home products. So there is no surprise there. In conclusion, I must state that being in a free country that protects the right of free speech we all have the right to state our opinions. We all have the right to bitch, cry, blame, lie, tell the truth, make up stories, and just recently are able to lie under oath, debate what the word, "is" is. But my challenge to all who have a bone to pick with Amway or Quixtar is not to waste your time developing misleading web sites (because it's not working...Quixtar is growing in leaps and bounds and customer satisfaction is high despite the fact that negative web sites appear before the actual quixtar official web site on most search engines) but instead organize, get a lawyer, call the FTC, call your Attorney Generals and take it to court. If you are right (and that is key to winning a court case) then you will get all your money back and save the world from AMWAY or Quixtar. I want you to because you may just save me from thinking that it was up to me to make up my own mind and accept my own responsibility for not succeeding in this or any other business that required time and money.

Thanks for your time and I wish everyone who reads this email well. Get out there and take life by the horns and work hard at succeeding in anything you like to do. Don't count on anyone to do it for you. Follow the golden rule and touch everyones life in such a way that leaves them feeling better for knowing you. But never bend the truth even if it hurts the ones you care about most. Never compromise your integrity and fear none. God Bless you all!

I don't quite understand why you have devoted this time to a website that bad mouths Amway and Quixtar when it sounds like you didn't do anything to make the business work for you. How could people make millions off $5-$7 tapes and $15 books, when the real money to be made is in the products sold on line and the profit that each purchase generates, all of this is spelled out for you in the explanation of the business, in the contract you sign. How about this, you share the tapes with your spouse, one of you spends the $ on tools but you both listen, attend & read, how would you explain their successes? It sounds like you never gave any of it your best shot. I'm curious to know how much money you currently make and how much time you trade for those dollars, there are people in my group who went silver in less than a month and it just keeps growing for them, how do you explain that? You shouldn't blame a whole multi-billion dollar company for your own inadequacies and lack of perserverance.

I looked over your site and cannot find any available info on primarica. My husband and I are thinking of starting one of there offices. I would appreciate any info you could give me.

Thank you for your informative site. I checked Amway out many years ago and decided it wasn't for me. Recently, my son-in-law to be started trying to recruit me for something he called Quixtar. After telling me a little about it, I told him it sounded a lot like Amway. Of course he denied it. He's been after me for weeks now, so, I decided to do some research. I now know that what I suspect is the truth. Thank you for saving me a big headache finacially and mentally.

I do not want to dog Quixtar. You may be very happy with the company. I just want to make you aware that there is a brand-new company called KM.net that has a much better commission schedule. With KM.net you only have to personally sponsor three people in order to get your investment back. Here is the clincher. They have signed on over 150 major corporations and plan to have close to 1000 by Christmas. No selling proprietary products. These are products that everyone uses every day anyway. No more Amway stigma! These products are not markup at all. I know you are familiar with the marketing concept of please take a look at their commission schedule when you get to my website. Here is a letter I am sending a two people who are not familiar with network marketing. Good luck to you what ever you choose to do.

[Omitted: many paragraphs of a "typical" KM.net recruiting spiel.]

I am trying to find information on a company called wireless concepts. They advertise free Satellite Systems. In return for each activation they pay the distributor $50. Have you heard anything bad or good about this company and how it takes care of its distributors?

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